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Wednesday, July 30, 2014

A Black Woman Speaks Out Against Students for Justice In Palestine: "You Do Not Have The Right To Invoke My People's Struggle For Your Shoddy Purposes"

From Tablet Magazine:

The student organization Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) is prominent on many college campuses, preaching a mantra of “Freeing Palestine.” It masquerades as though it were a civil rights group when it is not. Indeed, as an African-American, I am highly insulted that my people’s legacy is being pilfered for such a repugnant agenda. It is thus high time to expose its agenda and lay bare some of the fallacies they peddle.
• If you seek to promulgate the legacy of early Islamic colonialists who raped and pillaged the Middle East, subjugated the indigenous peoples living in the region, and foisted upon them a life of persecution and degradation—you do not get to claim the title of “Freedom Fighter.”
• If you support a racist doctrine of Arab supremacism and wish (as a corollary of that doctrine) to destroy the Jewish state, you do not get to claim that the prejudices you peddle are forms of legitimate “resistance.”
• If your heroes are clerics who sit in Gaza plotting the genocide of a people; who place their children on rooftops in the hopes they will get blown to bits; who heap praises upon their fellow gang members when they succeed in murdering Jewish school boys and bombing places of activity where Jews congregate—you do not get to claim that you are some Apollonian advocate of human virtue. You are not.
• If your activities include grieving over the woefully incompetent performance by Hamas rocketeers and the subsequent millions of Jewish souls who are still alive—whose children were not murdered by their rockets; whose limbs were not torn from them; and whose disembowelment did not come into fruition—you do not get to claim that you stand for justice. You profess to be irreproachable. You are categorically not.
• If your idea of a righteous cause entails targeting and intimidating Jewish students on campus, arrogating their history of exile-and-return and fashioning it in your own likeness you do not get to claim that you do so in the name of civil liberty and freedom of expression.
• You do not get to champion regimes that murder, torture, and persecute their own people, deliberately keep them impoverished, and embezzle billions of dollar from them—and claim you are “pro-Arab.” You are not.
• You do not get to champion a system wherein Jews are barred from purchasing land, traveling in certain areas, and living out such an existence merely because they are Jews—and claim that you are promoting equality for all. You do not get to enable that system by pushing a boycott of Jewish owned businesses, shops, and entities—and then claim that you are “against apartheid.” That is evil.
• You do not get to justify the calculated and deliberate bombings, beatings, and lynchings of Jewish men, women, and children by referring to such heinous occurrences as part of a noble “uprising” of the oppressed—that is racism. It is evil.
• You do not get to pretend as though you and Rosa Parks would have been great buddies in the 1960s. Rosa Parks was a real Freedom Fighter. Rosa Parks was a Zionist.
Coretta Scott King was a Zionist.
A. Phillip Randolph was a Zionist.
Bayard Rustin was a Zionist.
Count Basie was a Zionist.
Dr. Martin Luther King Sr. was a Zionist.
Indeed, they and many more men and women signed a letter in 1975 that stated: “We condemn the anti-Jewish blacklist. We have fought too long and too hard to root out discrimination from our land to sit idly while foreign interests import bigotry to America. Having suffered so greatly from such prejudice, we consider most repugnant the efforts by Arab states to use the economic power of their newly-acquired oil wealth to boycott business firms that deal with Israel or that have Jewish owners, directors, or executives, and to impose anti-Jewish preconditions for investments in this country.”
You see, my people have always been Zionists because my people have always stood for the freedom of the oppressed. So, you most certainly do not get to culturally appropriate mypeople’s history for your own. You do not have the right to invoke my people’s struggle for your shoddy purposes and you do not get to feign victimhood in our name. You do not have the right to slander my people’s good name and link your cause to that of Dr. King’s. Our two causes are diametrically opposed to each other.
Your cause is the antithesis of freedom. It has cost hundreds of thousands of lives of both Arabs and Jews. It has separated these peoples, and has fomented animosity between them. It has led to heartache, torment, death and destruction.
It is of course your prerogative to continue to utilize platitudes for your cause. You are entirely within your rights to chant words like “equality” “justice” and “freedom fighter.”
You can keep using those words for as long as you like. But I do not think you know what they mean.

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European Jews are experiencing vicious anti-Semitism on a daily basis. Now they've set up a Tumblr to chronicle it

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Al Qaeda and Islamic State Flags in London's Tunnels

How would you like to be stuck in this traffic jam?
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Jeff Beck & Imelda May
Rock n Roll Party Honoring Les Paul 2010

1. Baby Let's Play House
2. Double Talkin' Baby
3. Cruisin'
4. Train Kept A Rollin'
5. Poor Boy
6. Cry Me A River
7. My Baby Left Me
8. How High The Moon
9. Sitting On Top Of The World
10. Bye Bye Blues
11. The World Is Waiting For The Sunrise
12. Vaya Con Dios
13. Mockin' Bird Hill
14. I'm A Fool To Care
15. Tiger Rag
16. Peter Gunn
17. Rocking Is Our Business
18. Apache
19. Sleep Walk
20. New Orleans
21. Walking In The Sand
22. Please Mr Jailer
23. Casting My Spell On You
24. Twenty Flight Rock
25. The Girl Can't Help It
26. Rock Around The Clock
27. Shake, Rattle & Roll
Jeff Beck (Guitars)
Imelda May (Vocals)
Darrel Higham (Guitars, Vocals)
Al Gare (Bass)
Jason Rebello (Keyboards)
Stephen Rushton (Drums, Backing Vocals)
Dave Priseman (Trumpet)
Leo Green (Saxophone)
Blue Lou Marini (Baritone Saxophone)
Brian Setzer (Guitar, Vocals)
Gary U.S. Bonds (Vocals)
Troy Andrews (Trombone)

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From Paul Mirgenoff at Powerline:
Harsanyi thus concludes that “we either have an incompetent Secretary of State or a momentous shift in Middle East policy.” 
We do, indeed, have an incompetent Secretary of State. And under President Obama, our Middle East policy has shifted momentously. But neither phenomenon seems sufficient to explain Kerry’s proposal. 
Incompetence is one thing; stupidity another. And the U.S. could have manifested its tilt away from Israel without presenting a proposal it knew would be rejected so emphatically.  
My theory is that the Obama administration expected some within the Israeli government to go ballistic, and wanted that reaction. 
Why would the American administration want to generate openly expressed outrage against its Secretary of State? To create leverage. 
Team Obama could respond to Israeli outrage with outrage of its own. Israel, fearing a deterioration in relations with its traditional ally, would then feel pressure to “make nice” by offering concessions.
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Tuesday, July 29, 2014

It's An Open Secret That Hamas Maintains Its Command Center Below Al-Shifa Hospital, But The Media Won't Report That

The idea that one of Hamas' main command bunkers is located beneath Shifa Hospital in Gaza City is one of the worst-kept secrets of the Gaza war. So why aren't reporters in Gaza ferreting it out? The precise location of a large underground bunker equipped with sophisticated communications equipment and housing some part of the leadership of a major terrorist organization beneath a major hospital would seem to qualify as a world-class scoop--the kind that might merit a Pulitzer, or at least a Polk.

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01 My Funny Valentine 0:00
02 Studio Chatter 6:04
03 Blues by Five 6:29
04 Airegin 16:32
05 Tune Up/When Lights Are Low 26:40

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Dutch Islamists Waving ISIS Flags Call For Killing “Dirty Jews From The Sewers” During Anti-Israel Protest

From Algermeiner:
Jewish human rights group The Simon Wiesenthal Center on Friday called on Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte to rescind approval for a rally in support of ISIS in the Hague, after protesters, yelling in Arabic and Dutch, proclaimed that “dirty Jews from the sewers” should be killed. 
In a fiery letter to Rutte, Dr. Shimon Samuels, SWC Director for International Relations, said similar calls of violence were reported at a rally on July 4, and show that rather than even expressing support for Hamas militants in Gaza, the true intention of the rallies have been to call for the death of Jews. 
“Yesterday, the call in Arabic and Dutch was for ‘dirty Jews from the sewers to be killed,’” Samuels said. “This rally had little to do with Gaza solidarity. It was unambiguously targeted against Jews, but also according to the Dutch press sought to lynch journalists, who were pulled to safety by the police, otherwise serving as silent spectators.” 
He said that what was “most disturbing” was that, while press reports and photos from the rally show the mass of masked demonstrators calling for violence, the official Public Prosecutor’s press release stated “there were only 40 to 50 people present,” that “the police were present with an Arabic speaking police officer” and “the slogans overheard by this officer were not considered as crossing boundaries. 
Hence no arrest was made.” Samuels told the Dutch prime minister, “The YouTube clip clearly shows many more than 50 participants and the slogans at the end of the clip were repeated and quite evident, ‘Maut al-Yahud’ (Death to the Jews), ‘Khaybar, Khaybar’ (The genocide of the Jews of Khaybar) and ‘Those who do not jump are Jews’ (All the Muslims present jumped).” 
“Our Center expects you to launch an immediate inquiry into the cover-up by this police officer who betrayed his duty to faithfully translate all slogans – most of which were menacing Jews,” Samuels said, urging the Netherlands “to follow the example of the United Kingdom in banning ISIS and to forbid any further demonstrations in Holland that call for the murder of Jews or any other ‘riff-raff’.”

German Police Arrest Muslim Man For Throwing Firebombs At Synagogue

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“Israel’s immediate Arab neighbors privately want it to succeed”

WSJ today in an article describing the latest debacle of ‘competency’ regarding our foreign policy, its authors and it’s implementation.


The Gaza Cease-Fire Fiasco

Kerry and Obama give both sides reason to keep fighting in Gaza

The question that routinely comes up regarding U.S. foreign policy these days is: What in the world were they thinking? The latest puzzlement is the weekend fiasco in which President Obama and John Kerry pressed a cease-fire that is likely to extend the war between Hamas and Israel.
As Israel’s ground incursion into Gaza enters its third week, the goal of America’s foremost ally in the region is clear. It must degrade Hamas as a military and political force to the greatest extent possible.
That means destroying the rockets the terror group hasn’t yet fired at Israel and especially collapsing the network of tunnels used for smuggling weapons and infiltrating into Israel. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu must be mindful of Palestinian civilian casualties and maintaining domestic and international support, but a victory requires achieving these strategic goals.
The irony is that Israel’s immediate Arab neighbors privately want it to succeed. Jordan wants no part of a Palestinian state run by Hamas, and neither do the Saudis or Egypt’s military government. The Fatah Palestinian faction that runs the West Bank also wants Hamas to emerge weaker. Surely the White House knows this.
Yet over the weekend Secretary of State Kerry blundered into the conflict promoting a cease-fire floated by Turkey and Qatar that was close to the terms demanded by Hamas. The U.S. hasn’t released the details, but Israel’s press has published what it says is a one-page summary. The document called on Israel to negotiate with “Palestinian factions,” meaning direct talks with Hamas, as well as an end to Israel’s military campaign while giving Hamas concessions on border crossings and outside payments. In short, it would have ended the war while leaving Hamas in a position to rebuild its terror economy.
Mr. Obama didn’t endorse the Kerry plan per se. But in a readout of his Sunday phone call to Mr. Netanyahu, the White House said in a statement that, “Building on Secretary Kerry’s efforts, the President made clear the strategic imperative of instituting an immediate, unconditional humanitarian ceasefire that ends hostilities now” and leads to a deal based on the cease-fire in November 2012. That’s the one that let Hamas rearm.
The reaction in Israel was opposition bordering on contempt. Ari Shavit, a center-left columnist for Haaretz, wrote that Mr. Kerry’s “decision to go hand in hand with Qatar and Turkey, and formulate a framework amazingly similar to the Hamas framework, was catastrophic. It put wind in the sails of Hamas’ political leader Khaled Meshal, allowed the Hamas extremists to overcome the Hamas moderates, and gave renewed life to the weakened regional alliance of the Muslim Brotherhood.”

He added that “the Obama administration proved once again that it is the best friend of its enemies, and the biggest enemy of its friends.” And you should hear what Israel’s hawks are saying. We’re told Mr. Kerry is upset about being criticized so publicly by an ally, but Israel is a free society and the U.S. doesn’t get to impose a gag order.

What other self inflicted horrors are we going to bring upon ourselves?
I used to JOKE that Israel would turn to Russia and swap SU-35 airframes 1 for 1 with avionics suited for Russki aircraft. Russia (and China) is/are amoral. They will do anything in their own interest, and Elbit or Rafale suites to go up against any enemy such as UKR, Japan, or the USA would obviously better their position.
Reading what has been said today, and listening to the KIND of TYPICAL ridiculous double-downspeak of the Obama administration makes me think some people in Tel Aviv are beginning to have the same kind of thought.

Above is the IAF of 1967, almost entirely French aircraft

Israel got along from birth until 1966 under a US arms embargo. It may not be as easy for them if they do so again as it is for them to conduct operations today ..but I have no doubt they can do it again, and the USA would be the loser.
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Hey Nancy, Why Don't You Just Come Right Out and Say It?

Break this incoherent statement down sentence by sentence:


NANCY PELOSI: "Let me just say that any missile that comes from some place has a return address."

"And if Israel is responding to that address, uh, then ...

"That's a shame that the Palestinians are using, der uh, are rumored to be using children and families as shields for their missiles."

"Uh, should we all, uh, first of all, avoid conflict?"

"The Hamas initiated this."

"Again this has to be something where we try to have a two-state solution."

"We have to support, we have to support Abbas and his role there."

"That we have to ..."

"We have to support Iron Dome to protect the Israelis from the missiles."

"We have to support the Palestinians in what they need."

"And we have to confer again with the Qataris who have told me over and over again that Hamas is a Humanitarian Organization."

"Maybe they could use their influence to, um, calm nerves."

CANDY CROWLEY (interjecting): "The US thinks Hamas is a terrorist organization, though. Correct? Do you?"



Ok, so to me it sounds like Nancy Pelosi is like a Cotton Candy maker at a carnival, desperately trying to spin, out of a mush of sticky goop, the fluffy idea that there is an opportunity for justice and peace to prevail.

All the while, however - woven into each sentence of this incoherent statement that snakes out of her mouth - is the admission and/or outright assertion that there is no hope that justice or peace can prevail, with the facts on the ground being what they are.

She tells us Israel has the right to respond when missiles are fired at them. Yes, they do. That is justice.

She tells us that Palestinians are "rumored to be" using children and families are Human Shields. Yes that is the truth.

She tells us that Hamas started this. Yes, that's the truth.

She asserts the "two-state solution" prefacing it with the word "again", tacitly admitting that it is the same old solution to the same old problem, and that it hasn't worked before, and it won't work again.

She tells us we have to support Abbas and his role there. Whatever that role is, she is not clear.

She says, "that we have to ..." and then leaves off in the middle of the sentence. I agree completely.

She tells us we have to support Israel's defense of itself using the Iron Dome, which obviously hurts no one. Yes, that it justice.

She tells us we have to support the Palestinians "in what they need". She does not tell us what that is. We are left to assume she is just as baffled by that question as the rest of us are.

And then she reaches to pull a rabbit from a hat, saying the Qataris might have the answer. And why would the Qataris have the answer? Because the Qataris tell her Hamas is a "Humanitarian Organization."

Here I would swear Nancy Pelosi is being sarcastic. Like, "Hey, the Qataris say Hamas is a Humanitarian Organization. We know they're using children as Human Shields. We know they're firing missiles indiscriminately at the Israelis. We know they started this, but if the Qataris say they are Humanitarians, let's see if the Qataris can fix this."

How fucking absurd is that? It's like Pelosi is saying, "Hey look, I don't see a fucking solution. But the Qataris say it's cool. So, let the Qataris fix it. That ought to a fuckin' hoot."

Then Candy Crowley asks Pelosi, wait, don't you agree that Hamas is a terrorist organization.

And Pelosi responds, "umm hmm," in a meek voice suggesting, "Yeah, I know I'm making no sense. But what do you expect me to say? The Palestinians deserve to be destroyed? I mean, we all know it's true. But we have to persist in this illusion. Come on, Candy. Give me a break."

Does anyone else have any other takes on this?

I mean that's all I can come up with.

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Why Ron Fournier is dreadfully wrong on Israel, and partially right (but for perceptual reasons)

Ron Fournier, who tonsorial beauty impresses one and all has been derided by both right and left, R and D. This is a very high recommendation.
So his analysis is always worth thinking about, and analyzing, even if one might suspect his emotional want is slightly to somewhat L of C, but well R of the New Republic’s sad state today. Fournier’s analysis is not.
So today column in the National Journal which basically says Israel is in trouble for REAL for several reasons is worth a reasoned thought process.
The analysis is laid out like a research paper with a leading abstract
Every nation has a story. Israel’s is that Arabs have long been unwilling to negotiate with the Jewish state, and that terrorists among the Palestinians want to destroy it. For decades, three significant factors helped make this the dominant Middle East narrative. First, it’s correct, at least when applied to the dangerous minority of Palestinians. Second, elite opinion-makers, including journalists and politicians in the West, embraced and amplified the Israeli case. Finally, public opinion in the West, and particularly in the United States, firmly supported Israel.  
The problem is this contains a MAJOR FACTUAL ERROR at the outset.
at least when applied to the dangerous minority of Palestinians.

That’s from a Palestinian poll VERY RECENT, done by Palestinians, and reported HERE. Now since I have been talking with hundreds of Arabs from the gulf to Jordan to Turkey for 14 years, I am compelled to say that what that poll reports is totally accurate.
It’s still 1967 as far as the Palestinians are concerned.
A dangerous minority don’t seek the destruction of Israel, a LANDSLIDE MAJORITY ***INSIST*** on it, at least until this latest spasm, but I cannot think of single reason anything that has happened since the kidnapping of the three boys which would affect this. HAMAS, remember was freely elected by >60% vote. I accept that this is the true representation of the people’s will there. And what is that?
Just take the time to read Article 13, Ron and tell me HOW you can negotiate anything but a cease fire so that in a few weeks, months years you can start all over again (with better weapons).
The most dangerous part of this for Israel is that your final two points which concern how the above REALITY is perceived are correct.
Consider these three stories and a question raised by each:
  • NBC pulled foreign correspondent Ayman Mohyeldin out of the Gaza Strip, raising questions about whether his empathetic coverage of Palestinians led to his removal. Brian Stelter, who covers the media for CNN, said his reporting "strongly suggests that this was a situation caused by network news infighting and bureaucracy." Public backlash played a role in Mohyeldin’s return to Gaza, Stelter said. Question: A decade or so ago, would a news organization receive this much pressure for a staffing decision?
  • A Palestinian-American teenager accused Israeli authorities of beating him. Upon his return to Tampa Fla., 15-year-old Tariq Abu Khdeir said, “No child, whether they are Palestinian or Israeli, deserves to die.” Question: A decade or so ago, would the beating be covered at all? As much?
  • CNN correspondent Diana Magnay tweeted that the Israelis cheering bombs hitting Gaza, and who had allegedly threatened her, were “scum.” The network pulled her off the story. Question: A decade or so ago, would a network correspondent broadcast her bluntly negative opinion about Israeli soldiers? (What are the chances a network reporter would even think to call Israelis scum?)
Now, certainly for the 3rd at least, reporting was LOST by the ignorant comment made by Ms Magnay who told the world that the people cheering retribution for being rocketed with 15 seconds warning for TEN YEARS, were “scum”. She cannot take that back. She cannot change the perception created with a ‘walk back’ of some sort, and for creating a perception without having or reporting the professional responsibility for knowing, reporting, or thinking about that or compensating for the process between her short circuited brain and its instant compulsive impressions, and the fingertips on a keyboard.
But this ‘story’ is the microcosm of the heart of your warning. And it is true. The realities of the situation have NOT CHANGED AT ALL.
There is NO Palestinian leader who will say he is ready to CONSIDER swapping right of return and recognition of Israel (exchanges of embassies, etc) for a free, sovereign Palestine (see poll above). Without that, I can tell you, having spoken with the most left leaning peacenik of Israeli foreign ministry employees (in a notable position) there is as he put it, ‘very little to discuss’.
But the PERCEPTIONS regarding this ‘story’ of Israel have changed just the press here has become more and more PROGRESSIVE in its actual makeup, and warped it’s factual actions. That a true observation, but that and it’s effect has to be dealt with.
There is no point in whining about Diana Magnay’s real ignorance, because ‘she’ has and will do more of the same, creating a different perception an Israel which in OBJECTIVE REALITY has no choice about it’s actions.
Israel, however, has TOTALLY failed in matching its military success with PR success.
Netayahu talking about terrorist this and that is a losing proposition.
He has INCREDIBLE support at home. 87% are in total agreement with him (and only 79% of the population is Jewish). That has to be used to articulate how this state which gave ALL SINAI back for a treaty, and ended the occupation of Gaza, using the IDF to forcibly remove settlers while doing it, to those who CREATE PERCEPTIONS how gargantuan existence is for the only state in which all religions can freely practice.
That is where Israel needs to spend time and money.
Peace right now and for the foreseeable future is IMPOSSIBLE. The reason is the WILL of the Palestinian people to get ALL OF ISRAEL.
Israel must match it’s campaign for how they are perceived to their intelligence in the field.
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Rehab/Back to Black

Amy Winehouse Live at the Isle of Wight, 2007

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Muslims in Paris Screaming “Allahu Akbar” Attack Police With Rocks and Poles

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... a screaming fucking bloody mess
it's not an animal
it's an abortion ...

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Lindsey Stirling
Phantom of the Opera

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'We are looking at the beginnings of a Holocaust'

From the Jerusalem Post:
The situation facing European Jewry is “simply intolerable, unacceptable and inexcusable,” Israeli Jewish Congress president Vladimir Sloutsker told MKs and foreign diplomats at a special session of the Knesset Immigration, Absorption and Diaspora Committee on Monday. 
Calling the rise in anti-Semitic incidents accompanying Israel’s invasion of Gaza an “SOS situation,” Sloutsker warned that if left unchecked, such behavior could lead to another European genocide. 
“Never before since the Holocaust, have we seen such a situation as today,” he said, referring to the continent-wide demonstrations by pro-Palestinian activists, a number of which have generated into violence and many of which have featured racist rhetoric. 
“We are potentially looking at the beginning of another Holocaust now. These events [violent demonstrations and expressions of anti-Semitism] will only grow in scale across Europe,” he asserted. 
Addressing the legislators and representatives of a number of European governments, including those of Denmark, Holland and France, the oligarch and former head of the Russian Jewish Congress called for Jewish communities across the continent to “unite and consolidate.” 
Sloutsker also called on all European governments to impose what he called “strict regulations” on the format and content of demonstrations in order to prevent further violence against Jews. 
Citing a recent proposal by Belgian Jewry to establish a position of Special European Commissioner to monitor and combat anti-Semitism and racism, 
Sloutsker said such measures would “help send a strong message that European leadership is united and committed to combating anti-Semitism, racism and xenophobia.”


Anti-Israel Scum Spray Paint Swastikas, Word “Hamas” On Two Miami Synagogues

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Monday, July 28, 2014

"The Video Is Out ... Enjoy Brothers and Sisters" ---- Video of ISIS Slaughtering Hundreds of Shiite

Something for them to feel proud of, I take it.

Yeah, Allah approves.

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YGBFKM - Obama Administration Threatens Israel Over Criticism of Kerry’s Peace Deal

Thou Must Bow Down and Worship Me - 
Who Is Like Unto Me? - 
Who Can Make War With Me?

Obama administration officials are fuming over Israeli criticism of Secretary of State John Kerry’s latest bid to secure a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas.
In unusually harsh language, officials say the criticism of Kerry could put the relationship between the US and Israel in jeopardy. They also say the personal attacks on Kerry cross a line and are particularly disappointing at a time of active conflict.
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It apears that it was NOT a minor writing error which resulted in Halbig

As we all know, a US court just decided that BY LAW no subsidies can be available to citizens under Obamacare if the state they live in did not have a state run Obamacare exchange.
The administration countered, in effect, this was a typo, that their INTENT was clear. Everyone, since it was a mandate, was eligible for subsidies. This is critical because if you are not eligible and health insurance costs more than 8.5% of you income, you can opt out of Obamacare legally, without penalty
Though he denies that Obamacare was written in a way to deny subsidies to states that opted not to participate in the system, calling his January 2012 comments a “speak-o,” a second instance of Gruber making the same argument has been uncovered by Reason’s Peter Suderman.
Here are the two comments, both of which were made in January 2012. First, here’s Gruber at an event hosted by Noblis, a Virginia-based research nonprofit, on January 18, 2012 via Suderman. You can listen for yourself here:
What’s important to remember politically about this is if you’re a state and you don’t set up an exchange, that means your citizens don’t get their tax credits — but your citizens still pay the taxes that support this bill. So you’re essentially saying [to] your citizens you’re going to pay all the taxes to help all the other states in the country. I hope that that’s a blatant enough political reality that states will get their act together and realize there are billions of dollars at stake here in setting up these exchanges. But, you know, once again the politics can get ugly around this.
The second instance came on January 10, 2012 in a speech at the Jewish Community Center of San Francisco, again via Suderman. You can listen to the audio here:
Now a number of states have expressed no interest in doing so. A number of states—like California, has been a real leader—one of, I think it was the first state to pass an exchange bill. It’s been a leader in setting up its exchange. It’s a great example. But California is rare. Only about 10 states have really moved forward aggressively on setting up their exchanges. A number of states have even turned down millions of dollars in federal government grants as a statement of some sort—they don’t support health care reform.
Now, I guess I’m enough of a believer in democracy to think that when the voters in states see that by not setting up an exchange the politicians of a state are costing state residents hundreds and millions and billions of dollars, that they’ll eventually throw the guys out. But I don’t know that for sure. And that is really the ultimate threat, is, will people understand that, gee, if your governor doesn’t set up an exchange, you’re losing hundreds of millions of dollars of tax credits to be delivered to your citizens.
But Gruber wasn’t the only prominent Obamacare to make this argument. Then-Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-MT), who ushered the law through the upper chamber in 2010, basically made the same point in a discussion with then-Sen. Jon Ensign (R-NV) over committee jurisdiction when the law was working its way through Congress.
The Obama admin meant to coerce states into creating exchanges, and punish them if they did not. This is no typo, and the courts have this RIGHT.
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Geert Wilders Warning to America

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In her polemical novel Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand imagines a world in which the most productive citizens–business magnates, mostly, creators of wealth and generators of progress–go on strike. Tired of being blamed for the world’s ills by parasitic liberals in the press, academia, popular culture and government, they quit. The result is chaos and disaster. John Galt is the mysterious figure who inspires the revolt of the wealth creators.
On first impression, one would say that Barack (“You didn’t build that”) Obama is the anti-John Galt. A classic demagogue, he is one of the liberal horde who inveigh against the successful while adding insult to injury by soliciting campaign contributions from them.

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Media Sources (the Independent, the Mirror, and Daily Mail) Are Claiming One Direction Singer Zayn Mailik is Receiving Death Threats in Response to "Free Palestine" Tweet

But, you know what?

I don't buy it.


Because no one has produced a single incendiary tweet as of yet.

The worst tweet they quote is, "Let me kill you".


I have a feeling there might have been more to the quote, or at the least, more intended.

Like maybe the real Tweet goes something like this:

"You want Palestinians to fight against Jews? Let me kill you (as in, your people) and see how you feel about that?"

And here are the only actual Tweets (from heartbroken fans) I have seen so far:


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“Over the weekend, Kerry did manage to facilitate something in the Middle East: unparalleled unanimity”

Avi Issacharoff
Israel, the Palestinian Authority, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan were all in agreement that Kerry’s efforts were undermining the attempt to bring about a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas as quickly as possible. Moreover, Kerry’s framework and the ideas he presented led to an extraordinary phone call taking place between a senior Palestinian Authority official and an Israeli counterpart, during which the two mocked the senior diplomat’s naivete and his failure to understand the regional reality.
Kerry’s mistakes are embarrassing. A senior official in Washington on Sunday rushed to explain to Israeli reporters that the framework — the key terms of which were first published by The Times of Israel, and which then appeared in full on other media outlets — was but a draft that summed up a series of consultations between Kerry and the foreign ministers of Qatar and Turkey, Khalid al-Attiyah and Ahmet Davutoglu. But this is where the mistake begins: The US administration gambled on the camp that supports Hamas, bankrolls it and pushes it to go on shooting.
Kerry and his staff made an outrageous decision to turn their backs on the Egyptian framework for a ceasefire in a manner that encouraged Hamas to continue shooting rockets.
This first mistake was exposed by none other than the political leader of the organization, Khaled Mashaal, who said in a press conference in Doha, the Qatari capital, that Kerry had turned to al-Attiyah and Davutoglu two days after the Israeli operation in Gaza began and asked them to push for a ceasefire. At the time, Kerry knew full well that a major Egyptian effort was underway to persuade Hamas to stop firing immediately. By turning to Doha and Ankara behind the backs of Cairo and Jerusalem, Washington — no doubt unintentionally — strengthened Hamas’s resolve against Egypt and Israel.
But the mistakes didn’t stop there. The farce continued with the amateurish draft that was immediately rejected by Israel’s security cabinet; it then reached new heights on Saturday in Paris, when Kerry decided to participate in an international summit on Gaza, attended by his new friends al-Attiyah and Davutoglu as well as the foreign ministers of the European Union, but not by a few players that Kerry apparently perceives as marginal – representatives of Egypt, the Palestinian Authority and, of course, Israel.
It’s hard to say what caused the Obama administration to join forces with the Muslim Brotherhood of all camps — loyally represented by Turkey and Qatar — and turn its back on the movement’s sworn enemy, the Egyptian government. The best case scenario is that it might have been amateurism or a misreading of the situation. In a less ideal scenario, Washington decided to forge an alliance with organizations and entities that would be happy to see Israel disappear from the map. I prefer to bet on the first option, the one that was discussed with such ridicule by the senior Israeli and Palestinian officials — that Kerry just doesn’t understand who’s playing against whom in the Wild Mideast.

Read more: Kerry’s mistakes strengthen Hamas’s resolve | The Times of Israel
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What do you mean, the UN is not balanced?

After Israel announced it will abide by the terms of a US-proposed halt to a three-week-old Israeli offensive against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, the United Nations Security Council denounced the Jewish State for nevertheless continuing to shoot down Hamas rockets aimed at Israeli communities.
Has to be a joke, right?

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UN demands “cease fire”

Does not mention HAMAS stopping rocket fire, or IDF leaving Gaza. (Must be created by Obama law writers)
No matter, HAMAS says no cease fire is possible unless the blockade of Gaza is lifted.
I mean, HOW ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO GET MORE ROCKETS AND CONCRETE FOR TUNNELS? You know, for their peaceful objective.
HAMAS COVENANT: Article 13 There is no negotiated settlement possible. Jihad is the only answer
That poll was designed and conducted by Palestinians.
Every time I have introduced this poll into a twitter conversation with Arabs about peace and ending the endless violence in the middle east, the comeback is, that ‘well the Jews are living on land stolen from Palestinians’. The fact that this poll gives the LIE to a two state solution, or that NOTHING is different today from 1967 (except Israel had a lot more land) never occurs.
But they cannot understand EVEN ONCE that this concept carried through to the end can only mean that civilizational war of the peoples is going on between the Palestinians and the Israelis, and that Gaza (especially after freely voting in HAMAS) is no different from Schweinfurt, Regensburg, Berlin, Nagoya, Tokyo, or HIROSHIMA, and that Gaza is not reduced to the state of those sad cities by 1945 is because the Israelis DON’T WANT THAT END.

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Toronto Anti-Israel Rally: “Go Back To Germany Where They Can Kill You Again!”

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Today’s REALLY TRAGICALLY STUPID AWARD: RECIP ERDOGAN who is sending ships to Gaza

 Mr. Erdogan’s mind MUST be thinking the Israelis will back away from a confrontation because they will be afraid of some PR disaster. Actually if you watch the MSM, Israel has now suffered what Mr. Erdogan desires and, not only is it not so bad, here in the USA, the NETWORKS are suffering a credibility gap.
Israel, IMHO, MUST keep the blockade which means they MUST stop the Turkish flotilla by any means necessary.
If the USA had a president even WORTH warm spit we’d stop this before it got going, and if he couldn’t there would be a line of Arleigh Burke’s out there keeping the Turks from getting killed.
TUrkey has no business either in NATO, or the EU and the sooner we all realize this, the better for US
'Freedom Flotilla II' set to sail for Gaza from Turkey

Media report says activists – the same behind 2010’s ‘Mavi Marmara’ – scheduled to take off with Turkish military protection.

Mavi Marmara
Mavi Marmara Photo: Stringer Turkey / Reuters
Amid Israel’s Operation Protective Edge to stop Hamas attacks from Gaza, a “Freedom Flotilla” is being organized in Turkey to bring humanitarian aid to the Hamas-controlled Palestinian coastal enclave with the protection of the Turkish military, according to an unconfirmed media report.

The flotilla, called “Freedom Flotilla II,” is being organized by the Turkish Humanitarian Relief Foundation (IHH), the same organization that was behind the Mavi Marmara flotilla that sought to break Israel’s blockade of the Gaza Strip in May 2010.

Israel Navy commandos boarded the ship, were attacked, and killed nine of the attackers.

IHH chairman Bulent Yildrim was quoted by The Middle East Monitor as telling Gulf Online last week that the activists would set sail as soon as they receive the necessary permit from the authorities in Ankara and that the Turkish military would provide protection to the ship.

Diplomatic officials said Jerusalem was following the reports carefully, but stressed that it was not clear whether the flotilla would ultimately set sail.

So far there has only been a declaration of intent, with no firm date set, one official said.

Harold Rhode, a senior fellow at the New-York-based Gatestone Institute and a former adviser at the in the office of the American defense secretary on Islamic affairs, told The Jerusalem Post in an interview on Sunday that the real issue in the ongoing conflict is that Turkey and Qatar are supporting the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas in their goals.

“[Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip] Erdogan has been associated with the Muslim Brotherhood long before he was prime minister,” Rhode said.

It should now be clear to all that Erdogan “is now out of the bag,” Rhode said, adding that US President Barack Obama does not speak to the Turkish leader anymore despite previously describing him as one of his closest friends among the world’s leaders.

“Erdogan is doing whatever he can to help Hamas,” he said, asserting that it will only hurt the Palestinian people in the end.
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Today’s GENOCIDE lesson for Mr. Erdogan









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Widespread Panic
Travelin' Light

Ribs & Whiskey

Barstools and Dreamers

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Sunday, July 27, 2014

Former Christian in UK converts to Islam

Christian Today brings up the story of a woman who lost her way:
At university, Sarah Ager was known for her Christian faith. Her parents are Salvation Army ministers. She grew up going to church and being in the church choir. Belief in God and being a Christian were a fundamental part of her identity, until she converted to Islam when she was studying English in Leicester.

She wasn't peeved with the Church, didn't know much about Islam, and she didn't convert in order to marry a Muslim.

So what led her on this journey? She decided to look into Islam when she met some Turkish Muslims at university. "The main reason I started studying [Islam] was because I was embarrassed," she says.

"I knew nothing about Turkey or Islam, I didn't know what they believed; I was intimidated. I thought 'I have to at least Google this religion'."

But Sarah didn't stop at a quick Google search, she decided to take a course on Muslim women in literature as part of her degree. "There were two Muslim women wearing Hijabs on the course and I remember being intimidated and sitting at the other end of the room. I thought they must be really Muslim.

"But when they were speaking during the class, they had such a beautiful way of expressing their faith. I became more interested in finding out how they perceived God."

It's one thing to appreciate another religion, but what made her convert?

"Just one day I looked back and thought I wasn't a Christian anymore," she says.

"I can't remember the moment when I stopped believing that Jesus was the son of God, but I remember how I felt – I wasn't sure what I was or what I believed anymore. I had been so sure before."
I guess she was agnostic well before her conversion. Like various other converts, she remains ambiguous about what she thinks is wonderful about the Religion of Rape, offering no verses or passages to back up her argument. She also says:
"In the Qur'an there are often passages that say that you shouldn't judge something because you don't know if there is a part of that thing that God really loves."
But she won't back herself up? Again, I can't see what she's driving at. There's more ambiguity:
"When I put on a hijab, I'm reminded of how I want to present myself in the world," she says. [...]

"I think often people willingly ignore the peaceful message of the Quran and use it for their own advantage, it makes me incredibly sad. In the Qur'an it says you shouldn't force someone into religion – but then there are laws in Saudi Arabia which do.
She has effectively performed taqqiya. Koranic verse 8:39, for example, contradicts her defense. As for how she wants to be seen with a hijab, I've got a sad feeling that's because the Catholic wimple influenced it. That could partly explain why she failed to comprehend anything. Honestly, I believe such an outfit as the Catholic wimple outfit was a bad idea, if only because it was like a precursor to the hijab, and a form of wear that can deny the woman wearing it sunlight and vitamin D.

As noted, she was dishonest about the "messages" she speaks of in the Koran, which suggests there's more to this than meets the eye.
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Kerry’s Cease-Fire Proposal Met All Of Hamas’ Demands, None Of Israel’s

"Yes Sir, Mr. Hitler, Sir"

From YNET:
A ceasefire proposal presented to Israel by US Secretary of State John Kerry on Friday made scarce reference to Israel’s security needs, Haaretz claimed on Sunday. 
Israel quickly rejected the proposal, with some commentators questioning Kerry’s grasp of the situation in Gaza. 
The newspaper claimed that the draft banned Israel from destroying the so-called terror tunnels that entered Israeli territory from Gaza during a proposed seven-day humanitarian ceasefire. 
According to Haaretz, the draft contained 3 key items outlining the ceasefire agreement between Israel and the “Palestinian factions.” 
These items include a seven-day humanitarian ceasefire beginning Sunday evening, use of the understandings reached after Pillar of Defense in 2012 as a starting point, and talks in Cairo “within 48 hours” to resolve outstanding issues pertinent to maintaining a long-term cease-fire. 
Haaretz said that Hamas’ demands were all met in the draft, including opening of border crossings, passage of goods, and payment of civil servant salaries. 
However, there is no mention, Haaretz said, of Israel’s central demand for the Gaza Strip to be demilitarized and the terror tunnels destroyed.
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The Definition of Dumbfuck

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Top Palestinian Official Warns Israel: “The BIG Explosion Is Coming”

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Security Sources Say Hamas Planned a Massive ‘Terror Tunnels’ Attack for September 24

The Blaze:

The Israel Defense Forces have uncovered so far more than 30 tunnels meticulously dug over years by Hamas as a means to infiltrate under the border from Gaza and launch attacks on Israel.
Now, the Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv has reported one brazen and chilling way Hamas had been planning to use its tunnels before Israel began uncovering some of them this week and dismantling them.
Quoting unnamed Israeli security sources, Ma’ariv reported that the plan was to send 200 terrorists through each tunnel simultaneously – using dozens of tunnels – to six Israeli communities in southern Israel for a shocking attack on the Jewish high holiday of Rosh Hashanah which this year begins on September 24.
Once there, the Hamas gunman planned to kill or kidnap as many Israelis as possible and bring the latter back to Gaza with them, again via the tunnels.

The IDF released this photo of one of the Hamas tunnels it uncovered (Image source: IDF)
The IDF released this photo of one of the Hamas tunnels it uncovered (Image source: IDF)

As of this weekend, six Israeli soldiers have been killed by Palestinian gunmen who snuck into Israel using the underground structures.
The IDF has captured dozens of Hamas fighters in Gaza. The IDF told the Times of Israel that 70 were transferred to Shin Bet facilities for interrogation.
The IDF released this map showing the route of some of the tunnels it uncovered. It many cases, the entrance shafts are hidden in private homes, near mosques and schools in Gaza.

IDF map
IDF map

This video from the IDF shows vivid aerial views of a tunnel being demolished:

This would not be the first time opponents of Israel have exploited a Jewish holiday. In 1973, Arab armies launched a surprise attack on Israel during the Jewish Day of Atonement, Yom Kippur.


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“We release all detainees under 14 years of age without taking any biometric identification, including no fingerprints”

Border Patrol agent to Congressman Stock Stockman of Texas at a detention facility (large hangar) where illegal alien (refugees?) where Stockman upon unleashing inquiries, found the place suddenly EMPTYING.
I can’t think of a better example of incompetent governance than what is going on at the border now.
  1. No one wants to turn away kids being raped or impressed into gangs like MS-13
  2. No one want to see these kids held in UNCOOLED AIRPLANE HANGARS in Texas, or Arizona IN FRICKIN’ JULY
  3. No one wants to see them, once here do anything but become GOOD AMERICANS thru SOME KIND of rational process, or GO HOME.
  4. No one wants the border ANYTHING but completely IMPENETRABLE to terrorists.
  5. No one wants to ADMIT gang members into the USA
  6. No one wants to excessively burden local, town taxed, and real estate taxed school districts and therefore American households with too many incoming alien refugees when they are compelled by law to hire bilingual teachers, and find space without notice.
  7. No one believes a kid from Nicaragua or Guatemala has less right than kids in Somalia to avoid being pressed into HORROR, but no one believes we can be a haven for kids EVERYWHERE ON EARTH. We just CANNOT DO THAT, physically (look where these kids are being WAREHOUSED), or certainly (as our family net worth’s decline) economically.
But all these things NO ONE WANTS is PRECISELY what is occurring.
Obama, given his INABILITY to do anything but campaign and calculate based on that ‘everything is a nail’ hammering campaign persona, is apparently going to do the unbelievable for this nation, and LEGISLATE MAJOR CHANGE VIA DECREE.
There can be but ONE WAY to limit this arrogant, unconstitutional, purposeful, UNAMERICAN, destructive behavior and it should be reserved for after November, WHEN THERE IS A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN BOTH HOUSES, IF AT ALL. As the effects of this flood spreads to school districts and potentially police blotters, and neighborhoods, and the border remains as it is, there will be a lot of the democrats LEFT in January 2015 thinking about November 2016 and what to do when republican majorities in both houses face only presidential vetoes of the American peoples’ will as expressed thru elections based on his performance (or lack of).
We face a VERY, VERY rough 2 years ahead. Right now the only realistic hope the democrats have of retaining the senate outright is if the R’s IMPEACH Obama and his ground game gets the vote out for the individual states, and congressional districts. My judgment is that his behavior will be to PROVOKE that response.
The republicans should not do it.

If there are republican majorities in both houses this will all look very different November 12th. And rule via Obama decree will have a very different set of responses.
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FBI Inadvertently Classifies President Obama As A Domestic Terrorist

From Red Flag News:

Definitions of Terrorism in the U.S. Code
18 U.S.C. § 2331 defines "international terrorism" and "domestic terrorism" for purposes of Chapter 113B of the Code, entitled "Terrorism”:

"International terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:

Involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear to be intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and Occur primarily outside the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S., or transcend national boundaries in terms of the means by which they are accomplished, the persons they appear intended to intimidate or coerce, or the locale in which their perpetrators operate or seek asylum.*

"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics: Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
Appear intended
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.

18 U.S.C. § 2332b defines the term "federal crime of terrorism" as an offense that:
Is calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct;
and Is a violation of one of several listed statutes, including § 930(c) (relating to killing or attempted killing during an attack on a federal facility with a dangerous weapon); and § 1114 (relating to killing or attempted killing of officers and employees of the U.S.).

* FISA defines "international terrorism" in a nearly identical way, replacing "primarily" outside the U.S. with "totally" outside the U.S. 50 U.S.C. § 1801(c).
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So at a dinner Friday night, the subject of Gaza came up

What made it interesting was the socialist-communist background of 2 people (one of whom is German and 69), the liberal-progressive background of 2 people and the center-moderately conservative background of 2 people, and one LONGER TERM Peace Corps gal who has served in Nicaragua, and is on her way in a few weeks to Armenia.

The distribution of professionals .. one full professor at a major university, one  lawyer, one retired cardiovascular researcher, 2 teachers, and a profession Peace Corps volunteer, and German a recently retired, ......agitator.

The least informed were the liberal people, not out of any neglect, but because they refuse to pay for cable, and therefore saw only ABS, CBS, NBC, and PBS. They were STUNNED to find out 57% of Americans think Israel is doing the right thing. From the news and the way it was reported they both thought more than 80% of Americans are opposed to Israel.

None of the others there had any idea what roof knocking was. When I explained THIS, then explained THIS, there was general laughter around the table, since we all agreed if the USA had been the one under rocket fire, the smallest weapon we would consider for roof knocking would have been a 500 lb JDAM. All agreed if it had been OUR nation under fire, any subsequent demonstrations would have been ignored.

All 7 people were in agreement over the fact that Israel, having suffered ~8,000 rockets fired into it's 1948 borders since they used the IDF to forcibly abandon Gaza settlements, and all of Gaza in 2005, was COMPELLED to act. All 7 people were in agreement that women and children should have been in shelters made from the concrete used for tunnels into Israel, which can have but ONE PURPOSE. All the others were VERY, VERY curious as to the answers to that on twitter by muslims.There has been NONE. After all, who wants to say, 'yah, we'd rather just kill jews, and tough for the kids, who will go to heaven anyway'. There seemed a strong undercurrent of anger and rejection towards any cause that could act that way with their children.

All 7 people were in agreement that the fate of Gazans made them unhappy, in fact VERY unhappy, but that the Gazans, having freely elected HAMAS had made their choice and were as responsible for their fate as was HAMAS. References to to Germany bringing in Hitler were negative towards Gazans since only ~32% elected Hitler, whereas about TWICE that number elected HAMAS.
No one could think of any way to stop the rocket fire, or end the tunnels besides the way that Israel was doing it.

Only 1 other person (the German) was familiar with the HAMAS CHARTER. Good Abbreviation HERE, full unadorned text HERE. None of them had heard of MEMRI.

NOT ONE PERSON, including the Peace Corps volunteer, believes there is ANY CHANCE for peace in the middle east, because it's basic requirements are missing. All agreed, that without being prepared to make the sacrifice and compromise of giving up right of return and recognition of Israel (complete with embassies, etc) Israel had no reason to give up anything, and that the end of occupation of Gaza had PROVEN that ending occupation made things WORSE, not better. And we don't even live there.

The recent poll of Palestinians by Palestinians  here, didn't even raise a comment.
Frankly though, the most shocking moment, came when EVERY SINGLE PERSON THERE (young person, 2 liberal-progressives, 2 socialist -communists, and my wife and I) agreed that Obama was a complete failure. While there was some divergence among the reasons we found him a failure ALL AGREED he didn't like the real job, didn't like the nitty gritty of compromise, and didn't have the aptitude for this kind of work. There was complete agreement over the fact of his incompetent governance. One person forwarded the idea that no president could be 'successful' anymore. AMAZING. All expressed surprise he was re-elected. I was reluctant to ask if anyone there had voted for him.

The German, a communist-socialist, married to a communist who had supported East Germany, and in whose family remained Holocaust Deniers, came to dinner wearing and IDF t-shirt. Go figure.
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Scuzlims Destroying Paris

The Muslims are Restless
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"Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?"

HANNITY: Here to debate this, from the American Islamic Forum for Democracy -- Dr. Zuhdi Jasser is with us. And also joining us, the executive director of the Jerusalem Fund and Palestinian Center in Washington, Yousef, well, Munayyer is with us. Welcome all of you. Thanks for being here.

HANNITY: I want to ask Yousef a question. Is Hamas a terrorist organization?
MUNAYYER: Do I get to actually speak now?
HANNITY: You get to answer the question! It's a simple yes or no question. Is Hamas...
MUNAYYER: Sir, you invited me on here.
HANNITY: Is Hamas...
MUNAYYER: Sir, you invited me on here...
HANNITY: I'm asking you a question! Is Hamas, whose charter calls for the destruction of Israel -- is that a terrorist organization? That's a yes or no question!
MUNAYYER: Thank you for your question. And now I will...
HANNITY: Now answer it!
MUNAYYER: ... provide an answer.
HANNITY: Finally!
MUNAYYER: It's very telling to me that, and it should be telling to your viewers, as well, by the way, that the moment you have a Palestinian voice on your program who begins to explain the legitimate grievances of Palestinian...
HANNITY: Is Hamas a terrorist organization?
HANNITY: Answer!
MUNAYYER: Sir, let me...
HANNITY: Answer the question!
MUNAYYER: Sir, let me finish. Am I guest on your program or...
HANNITY: Yes, you're a guest, but...
HANNITY: ... a filibuster! Answer! Is Hamas a terrorist organization?
MUNAYYER: The United States certainly considers Hamas a terrorist organization...
HANNITY: Do you consider -- I didn't ask what the United States thinks! I asked what you think! Can you hear?
MUNAYYER: Look, if you -- if you think -- if you think that we are going to have any progress in this situation by simply yelling at me...
HANNITY: Is Hamas -- I'll ask you...
MUNAYYER: ... not really going to be helpful.
HANNITY: All right, let me ask you nicely. Is Hamas...
MUNAYYER: Let me ask you, sir, a question at this point...
HANNITY: ... a terrorist organization? Is Hamas a terrorist organization? Yes or no!
MUNAYYER: Let me ask you a question, sir, at this point...
HANNITY: No! You don't answer a question with a question! Is Hamas -- what part of this can't you get through your thick head?
MUNAYYER: I think...
HANNITY: Is Hamas a terrorist organization?
MUNAYYER: Excuse me?
HANNITY: Yes or no!
MUNAYYER: Excuse me? I already answered...
HANNITY: Yes or no!
MUNAYYER: ... your question. I already answered your question.
HANNITY: You did not!
JASSER: Well, this is the problem, Yousef, is that we cannot -- why is he asking you if it's a terrorist organization? Because terrorist organizations use children as shields, launch rockets into civilian populations, start a war that victimizes the poor children that are being killed in this war.
And just like when America has to go into Afghanistan, has to go into Iraq, we saw pictures from CAIR and other organizations saying America is killing innocents, when, in fact, we were fighting a legitimate war that had unfortunate deaths that happened, and this is about if you want to fight...
MUNAYYER: Do I get to say anything?
HANNITY: You had your chance!
MUNAYYER: Do I get to say anything, Sean?
HANNITY: You didn't say Hamas is a terrorist organization. Good-bye.
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